This is a great episond of one of my favorite podcasts. Rich Roll is one of the truly inspirational guys out there. This episode is the best of many episode . The conversation between these two guys covers addiction, recovery, faith, fitness and food. But, mostly recovery and what a bitch it is. With all the people in my life dealing with a hard fight, i should listen to this every 6 months. You can learn a bit more about David Clark here and by reading his book.